Ændra Rininsland is joining us to talk about her work on Bluesky and AT Protocol, including running Bluesky's largest News feed and implementing the XBlock Screenshot Labeler.

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Find out more on her website, including lots of great blog posts and project listings with more details:

Follow her on Bluesky @aendra.com

XBlock

The Xblock Screenshot Labeler does auto-detection and labeling of Twitter/X and other platform screenshots.

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00:15:36 Gov: Just black for me 00:15:37 will: blank for me 00:15:39 Nick Gerakines (he/him): Looks blank for me? 00:15:47 Nick Gerakines (he/him): Good! 00:15:48 Gov: Good now! 00:18:53 Boris Mann: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HotDog 00:19:13 Boris Mann: (I love that this software has the default URI on wikipedia) 00:19:22 Gov: Reacted to "(I love that this ..." with 😂 00:19:27 Paul Frazee: Reacted to "(I love that this so..." with 😂 00:19:29 Tom: Reacted to "(I love that this so..." with 😂 00:19:32 Michael Staub: Reacted to "(I love that this so..." with 😂 00:20:58 will: Reacted to "(I love that this so..." with 😂 00:21:55 Boris Mann: pMachine was my first blog system 00:23:01 Michael Staub: Joomla! 00:28:38 Boris Mann: Adding additional lines to the DID doc around alternate verifications is definitely a thing that could be layered on ATProto 00:31:31 Michael Staub: Reacted to "Adding additional li..." with 👍 00:38:45 jon: And all these features are good not just for journalists! 00:42:22 Rudy Fraser: These are great questions. 00:42:28 Boris Mann: Yep! 00:43:08 jon: Reacted to "These are great ques..." with 💯 00:44:17 Michael Staub: Reacted to "These are great ques..." with 💯 00:44:21 jon: It’s tricky though because not removing something from the feed is also editorial control. I don’t think there are any right or wrong answers in general, as Rudy says great questions 00:44:52 Boris Mann: The desire for governance 00:46:14 Boris Mann: I follow a lot of US friends (I’m in Canada) and whenever a new main character appears in the US, I add them to a mute list 00:46:44 will: news burnout is real 00:47:39 will: would be interested in any stats on quantity of negative headlines over time, although I suppose negative is fairly subjective 00:50:48 Boris Mann: Totally obvious to build a machine learning model 😛 00:50:53 Tom: Reacted to "Totally obvious to b..." with 😂 00:54:09 Boris Mann: Mastodonian ideals 00:54:31 Boris Mann: Atmospherical vibes 00:54:52 psingletary.me: mmmm stats 00:55:22 jon: Mastodon’s CWs are an interesting idea whose implementation hasn’t really progressed since early 2017 where it was designed primarily for spoilers. Frustrating! 00:56:26 Rudy Fraser: Can’t believe there are so many FB screenshots 00:57:06 Gov: kinda cool that we could use a system like this to build something like ground.news as a feed on bsky 00:58:02 Boris Mann: Reacted to "kinda cool that we c..." with 👏 00:58:51 psingletary.me: LUL 00:58:53 Boris Mann: Bonus points for Potemkin village 00:59:11 will: waiting for the new captcha to be "click all the squares that are a facebook screenshot" 00:59:17 Michael Staub: I think the user base of threads is mostly instagram users, which are generally very different than Twitter users 00:59:45 Gov: Reacted to "I think the user b..." with 👍 01:00:07 Chris Small: Replying to "I think the user bas..."

Yea agreed, I’m on there from time to time and it’s very much instagram people there 01:02:44 Tom: Woah 01:07:01 Michael Staub: What base model are you fine tuning? 01:07:38 Boris Mann: Reacted to "What base model are ..." with ❔ 01:09:04 Michael Staub: MiniCPM-V might be better than google 01:09:26 Gov: Reacted to "MiniCPM-V might be..." with 👀 01:10:53 psingletary.me: haha that's great 01:12:29 jon: I have to take off, great session — very interesting and informative! 01:14:13 Michael Staub: Apple just shipped something similar FYI: https://9to5mac.com/2024/07/31/theres-an-emoji-for-that-meet-genmoji/ 01:14:16 Boris Mann: Countdown to Kardashian Bluemoji pack 01:14:32 Michael Staub: Reacted to "Countdown to Kardash..." with 👍 01:14:40 Gov: Reacted to "Countdown to Karda..." with 😂 01:14:43 talo: Reacted to "Countdown to Kardash..." with 😂 01:14:44 Boris Mann: The Jay Elfcore Moss Bluemoji Pack funds Bsky 01:14:53 Michael Staub: Reacted to "Countdown to Kardash..." with 😂 01:14:58 Boris Mann: I don’t even want to imagine the money from a Paulinho Pack 01:15:25 Boris Mann: Lottie is very cool https://lottiefiles.com/ 01:16:02 Michael Staub: Reacted to "Lottie is very cool ..." with 👍 01:16:13 talo: Reacted to "Lottie is very cool ..." with ❤️ 01:16:32 Boris Mann: Collective standards work 01:17:13 Ændra Rininsland: Reacted to "Great to finally mee..." with ❤️ 01:18:28 Nick Gerakines (he/him): How much of your experimentation and infrastructure is running in your residence and do you feel like that has made development easier and more accessible? 01:22:37 psingletary.me: "Tinkering" is great way for anyone to learn. It means accessibility by all. 01:22:59 Gov: Reacted to ""Tinkering" is gre..." with 🙌 01:23:01 Michael Staub: Reacted to ""Tinkering" is great..." with 🙌 01:23:11 Nick Gerakines (he/him): How do you feel the huge growth in non-english speaking audiences is going to impact tools like this? Do you worry about having language / locale / region specific feeds and services preventing broad adoption? 01:23:15 Nick Gerakines (he/him): Reacted to ""Tinkering" is gre..." with 🙌 01:25:20 Boris Mann: “Redirects” 01:25:21 Rudy Fraser: Been asking for this after getting some harassment for Blacksky 01:25:26 Nick Gerakines (he/him): Reacted to "Countdown to Karda..." with 😂 01:25:35 Paul Frazee: Reacted to "“Redirects”" with 💯 01:26:04 Nick Gerakines (he/him): Reacted to "Been asking for th..." with 😦 01:26:10 Paul Frazee: Replying to "Been asking for this..."

yeah we can manually intervene with a hackfix 01:26:30 psingletary.me: labeling the image blogs themselves rather than the post 01:26:47 Paul Frazee: Replying to "Been asking for this..."

soon as you’re sure lmk we’ll get into gear on it 01:26:57 psingletary.me: *blobs 01:26:59 Michael Staub: Reacted to "yeah we can manually..." with 👍 01:27:03 Rudy Fraser: Reacted to "soon as you’re sure ..." with 👍🏾 01:27:31 Paul Frazee: yeah ^ not in love with that situation, we just didnt build labeling with that in mind 01:27:48 psingletary.me: Reacted to "yeah ^ not in love..." with 👍 01:31:09 psingletary.me: yeah post/ image reports that reference the labels of the labelers AND then localization, that could streamline the 3rd party labeling alot. but i also imagine that would be UI + "system" change 1. i report to xblock, 2. I report using xblocks labels in localized label version 01:31:40 Paul Frazee: we’re going to be working on some app improvements with the various languages too btw 01:31:55 Gov: Reacted to "we’re going to be..." with 🙌 01:31:55 psingletary.me: Reacted to "we’re going to be..." with ❤️ 01:31:59 Nick Gerakines (he/him): Reacted to "we’re going to be..." with 🎉 01:32:09 will: thanks for the talk 👏

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